<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0" xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd" xmlns:googleplay="http://www.google.com/schemas/play-podcasts/1.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[founded.]]></title><description><![CDATA[My name is Jay and I write Founded — case studies of real companies that were built and sold.]]></description><link>https://www.readfounded.com</link><image><url>https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!2NzF!,w_256,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F708336e3-0eec-4e3b-b44a-76b30b76dbf5_1024x1024.png</url><title>founded.</title><link>https://www.readfounded.com</link></image><generator>Substack</generator><lastBuildDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2026 22:44:37 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://www.readfounded.com/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><copyright><![CDATA[Founded.]]></copyright><language><![CDATA[en]]></language><webMaster><![CDATA[foundedco@substack.com]]></webMaster><itunes:owner><itunes:email><![CDATA[foundedco@substack.com]]></itunes:email><itunes:name><![CDATA[Jay Cox]]></itunes:name></itunes:owner><itunes:author><![CDATA[Jay Cox]]></itunes:author><googleplay:owner><![CDATA[foundedco@substack.com]]></googleplay:owner><googleplay:email><![CDATA[foundedco@substack.com]]></googleplay:email><googleplay:author><![CDATA[Jay Cox]]></googleplay:author><itunes:block><![CDATA[Yes]]></itunes:block><item><title><![CDATA[Sour Strips: The Silent $75.5 Million Exit]]></title><description><![CDATA[The candy brand America wanted.]]></description><link>https://www.readfounded.com/p/a-10x10-office-50000-and-a-755-million</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.readfounded.com/p/a-10x10-office-50000-and-a-755-million</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay Cox]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2026 22:00:43 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/2c97e166-1af1-42c2-b3e1-4efe2336cd15_1664x862.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TL;DR: A fitness YouTuber spent seven years building an audience, then spent $50,000 of his own money to create the sour candy he always craved. Five years later, he sold it to Hershey for $75.5M USD, having never raised a dollar and retaining 100% equity. Here&#8217;s the full story.</p><p>Biggest lessons:</p><ul><li><p>Build the audience before you build the business. Not only is it the most organic form of marketing, it&#8217;s trust.</p></li><li><p>A clean cap table sells quickly &#8212; no investors, no debt, and no contracts to unwind took this deal from a conversation to a bank balance in just two months.</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pkru!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F927d1f03-6c15-4764-ab24-20d183669d2a_2017x1110.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Pkru!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F927d1f03-6c15-4764-ab24-20d183669d2a_2017x1110.png 424w, 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The press release was very formal: a few hundred words about expanding its candy portfolio and a quote from an executive. It mentioned everything, except the acquisition price.</p><p>Maxx had amassed a YouTube following of several hundred thousand by 2024, and, as you might imagine, the guessing began. People from all corners of the internet cast their vote, pegging the Sour Strips acquisition price anywhere from $75 million to half a billion, which is reasonable for knowing next to nothing about the buyer or the situation. The actual number arrived in a June 2025 podcast episode, broadcast by Maxx himself.</p><p>$75.5 million.</p><p>It went to sole owner Maxx Chewning who had started the company five years earlier with just $50,000 of his own money &#8211; an impressive feat for a physical product business by any stretch. He never raised capital, didn&#8217;t take on any debt, and never sold as much as a fraction of a percent to anyone.</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;So the company got sold for $75.5 million. And that was a number that&#8230; was right in line of what I expected the company to honestly get sold for.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p><em>&#8212; Maxx Chewning</em></p><p>Here is how a man whose first warehouse was a ten-by-ten foot office got to an exit of that scale.</p><h2>02: how it started</h2><p>Maxx Chewning grew up in Virginia and started posting fitness videos on YouTube in 2013 &#8212; workouts, food challenges, and, eventually, the business ventures themselves. When he first started, he was working an IT job. He was ultimately fired for doing YouTube on company time.</p><p>Like many fitness YouTubers in the early 2010s, Maxx started a clothing brand to sell to his dedicated audience, primarily gym goers. This brand was Ever Forward Apparel, named after his father, who died of ALS years earlier; the phrase &#8220;Ever Forward&#8221; had been his. Maxx learned business skills that would later jumpstart his success at Sour Strips &#8212; textiles, manufacturing, import processes and the &#8216;in the weeds&#8217; mentality that included packing orders every night and dropping them off at the post office the following morning.</p><p>He later moved to Houston, Texas, mostly because that was where several close friends including Christian Guzman (also a fitness YouTuber who started the clothing brand Alphalete) lived at the time. He made the trip down there so often, he figured why not just move there instead.</p><p>By that time, Ever Forward had peaked at $1.6 million in annual revenue. By creator merch standards, it was a sizeable business. It was also, according to Maxx, a business that existed because of him rather than beyond him. Legacy was important to him.</p><p>The idea that would outlast him had been sitting in his videos for years.</p><p>Original fans knew that Maxx was a sour candy fiend. He would buy it at gas stations and convenience stores and then publicly complain about how it wasn&#8217;t sour enough. It was a running joke that the big candy companies should hire him to approve new products before they shipped them.</p><p>The joke was also a spark, with a full market analysis conducted over the span of two decades trying &#8216;sour&#8217; candy.</p><p>In 2017, Christian Guzman launched an energy drink brand called 3D Energy. The shift from apparel to consumables inspired Maxx, knowing it could be done as a fitness YouTuber. The journey officially began in 2018.</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;I never overanalyzed the market. It wasn&#8217;t a big master plan. As a candy fanatic, I was always analyzing what&#8217;s available in stores, and I was not as impressed as I felt like I could be.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p><em>&#8212; Maxx Chewning</em></p><p>It took approximately eighteen months mostly because of several roadblocks - Manufacturers wanted order minimums he didn&#8217;t want to commit to while the samples he received were not sour enough to put his name behind the product. The project kept being put aside, but something kept pulling him back.</p><p>Investors were interested early on. The idea was to bring someone onboard who had industry experience, and to let Maxx be the face of the brand as a public creator. With the dragging timeline for actually getting started, they eventually lost interest.</p><p>Maxx was ultimately left with one option: Fund the $50,000 to get the thing off the ground himself.</p><p><em>Please take a moment to share this article of founded. if you are enjoying it so far. It helps me grow and provide ever-more interesting case studies! </em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.readfounded.com/p/a-10x10-office-50000-and-a-755-million?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.readfounded.com/p/a-10x10-office-50000-and-a-755-million?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><h2>03: the twenty-thousand-unit hour</h2><p>Sour Strips launched online on September 9, 2019, with the tagline &#8220;sour candy that doesn&#8217;t suck.&#8221; It sold more than 20,000 units in the first hour, the very real benefit of an engaged and dedicated audience he had spent years building.</p><p>People who followed his business ventures onscreen had two reasons to buy: the first was that they genuinely wanted to support Maxx; the second was those loyal fans who watched him complain about sour candy for years, eager to find out if he had finally cracked the sour-candy code. Whatever the reason, it worked.</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;I&#8217;d built a social media audience for seven years. When I launched it, they not only wanted to support me, but also trusted that, hey, if I&#8217;m really into candy, I probably know what a good product is.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p><em>&#8212; Maxx Chewning</em></p><p>The first warehouse was a ten-by-ten-foot office space. In December 2019 he added Tropical Mango, the first new flavor, because of a nudge received by members of his audience. By the brand&#8217;s first birthday in September 2020, it had sold more than one million bags or roughly $3 million in revenue.</p><p>The perfect positioning and the timing of it all became much clearer in hindsight. Six months after the brand launched, the world had its first COVID-19 shutdown. People were forced to stay home, were bored, and watched YouTube. The other thing they did was scroll and shop online. A YouTuber with a candy brand that fulfilled online orders was near perfect positioning for the brand to slingshot to the big leagues.</p><h2>04: navigating margins</h2><p>Before launch, Maxx called a friend who had built several large drinks brands. He was told what an optimal distributor margin, cost per unit, and sale price were. His cost was much higher than the friend suggested; by all measures, the business wasn&#8217;t operating efficiently and his costs were too high.</p><p>The tradeoff was the final price at which he sold to consumers. He rationalized that he would pay an extra dollar if the candy was actually sour and tasted good. It was either that or selling cheap candy that meant no team, no retail opportunities, and in the end, no brand. The choice to sell at a higher price point than direct competitors signaled to buyers that it wasn&#8217;t a competitor at all. He had created a premium category in one that wasn&#8217;t supposed to be premium at all. The decision paid off and ended up funding his team, providing retail opportunities and built the Sour Strips brand.</p><p>The second unique component of Sour Strips was the option to forego a sales team entirely. This came down, once again, to positioning.</p><p>When brick-and-mortar stores reopened post-pandemic, they needed every reason to get customers back into their stores. A candy brand that had a cult online following filled the gap perfectly. Many retail buyers had also seen the brand grow online over the last two years and were ready to make an offer.</p><p>In January 2023 Sour Strips went nationwide &#8212; all fifty states in more than 16,000 stores &#8212; which was the moment it stopped being an online brand. Over the five-year timeline, revenue skyrocketed from $3 million in year one, to $8.5 million, $16.5 million, $25 million, and then over $30 million in the final year before it was sold.</p><p>The rapid growth pattern emerged in every new retail venture: Sour Strips got into five H-E-B stores in the first week with the chain. Managers at other H-E-B stores saw the sales data and five to fifteen store requests started flooding in each day.</p><h2>05: the tools</h2><h3>the product</h3><p>The Sour Strips product consists of flat belt-like candy strips covered by a tooth-enamel-destroying layer of sour. They are sold in a resealable bag with a clear frontside so buyers can see the strips in all of their glory &#8212; a detail Maxx adopted from the candy he liked as a kid. By the time of the sale there were thirteen flavors in addition to bite-sized and party-size strips. There were also plenty of collaborations with other candy brands and even one with his friend&#8217;s energy drink.</p><h3>founder skillsets</h3><p>Maxx had developed a rather diverse skillset from building Ever Forward, and continued to build on them while Sour Strips grew. His skills as a YouTuber also helped with marketing, brand, and distribution. Of particular interest was the obsession to curate the brand, product SKUs, packaging and flavor of each new addition to the lineup himself rather than outsourcing it. His taste needed to be the final signoff &#8211; something Maxx understood well having built a personal brand on social media.</p><p>The operational side was mostly handled by a long-term friend and employee who handled vendor interactions, photoshoot setups, insurance, and documentation for distribution. Near the end of Maxx&#8217;s run at Sour Strips, the team had grown to around 20.</p><h3>the warehouses</h3><p>The ten-by-ten office space did not last long. The first real move was to a 1,000 square feet backroom inside of Christian Guzman&#8217;s Alphalete headquarters, a space Maxx renovated himself. It could hold 250,000 bags when full, which sounded like plenty until Sour Strips outgrew it in under a year.</p><p>Christian was the one who pushed him to make the big jump to 13,000 square feet, which seemed way too big at the time. Sour Strips outgrew it in under two years. The next step was a split 58,000 square foot warehouse of which Sour Strips occupied approximately half. Even those 28,000 square feet were reaching capacity before the sale went through. In a June 2026 YouTube video, Maxx explains how the lease was up and the brand was moving to a bigger space still.</p><h3>monetization</h3><p>Sour Strips was monetized through three primary channels, in chronological order of when they were first established:</p><ol><li><p>Direct-to-consumer. The channel that first launched the brand and, for the first few years, was the whole business. The benefits included keeping the entire margin to reinvest in the business and a list of customers that followed and respected the founder. The limitation was volume.</p></li><li><p>Wholesale retail. This channel lowered the margin per bag but significantly increased volume. This is what took annual revenue from low seven figures to over $30 million, and it is what built the brand into something worth selling.</p></li><li><p>New products. Smaller sized bites, party packs and collaborations were sold within the already existing network of customers, ensuring repeat business.</p></li></ol><h3>unique branding</h3><p>The primary aim of most candy brands is to attract children. Soft, swirly text, primary colors and cartoons invite children to try them, and is perhaps also why most candy isn&#8217;t sour enough. This is where Sour Strips created a category of its own. Maxx was thirty when he launched Sour Strips, so he created it for candy fiends like himself. 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Official Sour Strips trademark and patent filing with the United States Patent and Trademark office. Filed September 9, 2019.</figcaption></figure></div><p>The part of the business that was hard to replicate wasn&#8217;t the candy or even the packaging, it was the founder&#8217;s love for candy, a loyal audience that had seen him try thousands of brands, and the fact that he was still personally making the videos and branding even after the company was worth eight figures.</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;Our core value is to be a cool brand, and that&#8217;s not hard if you don&#8217;t overanalyze it.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p><em>&#8212; Maxx Chewning</em></p><h2>06: by the numbers</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_xyw!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73ae19e6-e95e-4628-96a8-510ae017f47f_2017x802.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_xyw!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73ae19e6-e95e-4628-96a8-510ae017f47f_2017x802.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_xyw!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73ae19e6-e95e-4628-96a8-510ae017f47f_2017x802.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_xyw!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73ae19e6-e95e-4628-96a8-510ae017f47f_2017x802.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_xyw!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73ae19e6-e95e-4628-96a8-510ae017f47f_2017x802.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!_xyw!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F73ae19e6-e95e-4628-96a8-510ae017f47f_2017x802.png" width="1456" height="579" 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">Annual revenue by company age.</figcaption></figure></div><p><em>Years run from the September 9 launch anniversary. The four later figures are as Maxx has publicly stated; the first-year figure is from a 2023 profile of the business. Year five is plotted at $30M against a stated &#8220;over $30 million&#8221;.</em></p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!b5LG!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c6f2ba9-223c-4fa2-b652-89c2b4e48808_2017x975.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!b5LG!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c6f2ba9-223c-4fa2-b652-89c2b4e48808_2017x975.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!b5LG!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5c6f2ba9-223c-4fa2-b652-89c2b4e48808_2017x975.png 848w, 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Not to negotiate, but just to check in. Roughly once a year somebody would call Maxx, say they liked what he was doing, ask whether he needed anything, and hang up. Maxx was intrigued by the interruption, but never thought much of it.</p><p>Private equity firms emailed regularly as well. He ignored them, both because he didn&#8217;t feel the need for outside capital, and because if he ever did sell, he wanted it to be to a candy company.</p><p>In September 2024, the annual call from Hershey came with a request to meet in person in New York. Maxx was heading to New York anyways &#8212; his wife was attending fashion week, there was a Sour Strips event, and it was his birthday. The lunch took place on Wednesday, September 11. He recounts coming back to the hotel and telling his wife he had no idea what had just happened.</p><p>Two days later, a file with several hundred questions about the business landed in Maxx&#8217;s inbox. This was their due diligence.</p><p>Sour Strips had just turned five years old earlier that week.</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;It wasn&#8217;t this desire. It wasn&#8217;t like I need to sell because of cash flow or I need to sell because I&#8217;m hating doing this. It was like I&#8217;m in, I&#8217;m doing candy, man. This is my dream.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p><em>&#8212; Maxx Chewning</em></p><p>The initial push to sell to Hershey was the unlock for the next level of growth: Hershey had the access and network to get Sour Strips into more than 300,000 retail locations rather than the current 30,000 in a matter of months rather than the years it would have taken Maxx. It was also an easy way to avoid dealing with the staffing nightmare of a fast-growing candy company, and, of course, the copycats stealing Sour Strips&#8217; spotlight.</p><h2>08: the sale process</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FD-Y!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9ebde7e-f8b9-440d-b234-6dd145c65831_2017x1368.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!FD-Y!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fa9ebde7e-f8b9-440d-b234-6dd145c65831_2017x1368.png 424w, 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">From offer to sale in two months: The sales process timeline.</figcaption></figure></div><blockquote><p>&#8220;It felt like I was back in school almost, because they give you this Excel spreadsheet with hundreds of questions that you should know the answer to, but I&#8217;m kind of doing them out of order. I&#8217;m like, no, don&#8217;t know that one. Skip that one.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p><em>&#8212; Maxx Chewning, on due diligence</em></p><h2>09: what went wrong</h2><h3>01: Eighteen months of stalling before launch</h3><p>The delay in launching Sour Strips was doubt. Maxx knew what his vision was for a candy brand, but was unsure he could make a candy that was good enough to market to hundreds of thousands of subscribers. That&#8217;s why he kept putting the project aside and picking it up again. In the end, the timing worked out and positioned the brand to scale quickly, so the delay was actually a benefit in hindsight.</p><h3>02: Profitable and nearly out of cash</h3><p>Without outside investment, Sour Strips needed to be profitable from day one. For the first three years, all profits went right back into inventory. There were times the accounts ran dangerously low, and the difference between profitability and liquidity became inherently clear to Maxx. Although these lessons were primarily learned from Ever Forward, the scale and growth rate required significant levels of inventory, something not even Maxx was fully prepared for.</p><h3>03: Running two companies at once</h3><p>Up until Sour Strips was pulling in $20 million per year in revenue, Maxx was also running Ever Forward. It took until late 2023 to officially shutter the doors on the clothing brand. It took five years of brute force for Ever Forward to reach $1.6 million in annual revenue, but just one year of being in the candy business produced more than $25 million. The writing was on the wall; it was a hard decision for Maxx, particularly because the brand was tied to his father&#8217;s legacy.</p><h3>04: One person wearing fifty hats</h3><p>Maxx has stated publicly that Sour Strips was never built to be traded hands. He would rather give a task his all in the 30 minutes to an hour it took him to do it than hire for a new position. Although this kept the business lean with more profit to reinvest, it also created key person risk.</p><h3>05: The team found out at the end</h3><p>The only employee that knew of the deal was the long-standing friend he employed. He needed her for producing the correct documents during the due diligence process. The other employees found out once the deal had closed. It was clear that if talk of the sale leaked, it could put pressure on the deal. The real reaction came when the sale was announced: not excitement but worry about job security.</p><h2>10: what went right</h2><h3>01: The audience came before the product</h3><p>Seven years of videos meant launch day did not require a marketing budget. 20,000 units in the first hour was not because the candy was spectacular. It was the belief that Maxx had created something worth buying. Every creator-led brand stands by this significant advantage when launching a new product.</p><h3>02: He kept every penny</h3><p>Founders are traditionally told that outside money is how you scale a physical product; Sour Strips scaled to $30 million on reinvested profits. The wonderful benefit of this was that the $75.5 million was not divided up, it belonged solely to Maxx. It also notably sped up the sale process since the only permission needed was his own.</p><h3>03: He ignored pricing advice</h3><p>One of the best decisions Maxx made was to ignore pricing advice from peers. By charging a higher price and imagining it as a premium product, it became exactly that. Without this thinking, there would have been little profit margin and stifled growth as a result.</p><h3>04: He let retail come to him</h3><p>This was a unique advantage as a creator. Maxx leveraged his audience to generate awareness for the product until retailers came knocking instead of the other way around. He waited for the big brands like Walmart, Target, and H-E-B to come to him. Once other retailers saw the sales figures, they came quickly. It was a domino-effect.</p><h3>05: He chose the buyer before there was an offer</h3><p>Maxx always wanted to sell to a candy brand. More specifically, he wanted one that didn&#8217;t have a prominent line of sour candy so that the buyer would have to make it succeed. In other words, he wanted the legacy of Sour Strips to live on beyond his control. The relationship with Hershey that was built up over the years was more subconscious than it was deliberate, something Maxx only realized when he had an offer in-hand.</p><p>So far, the bet on the brand has paid off. At the time of the sale, Sour Strips was shipping about one million bags per month. By June 2026, that number had passed two million per month in over 70,000 retail locations. In recent months, they had a record week: 600,000 bags through retail checkouts in a single week.</p><p>Just a few years prior, a retailer had asked for 600,000 bags over three months that stretched the small team to their limits. A testament to the immense growth of the business in a short timeframe.</p><h2>11: founded lessons</h2><p>In his words:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;You should take advice from a lot of places, maybe from a lot of people who know the space&#8230; but you shouldn&#8217;t take every piece of advice as: this is concrete and what you have to do.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p><em>&#8212; Maxx Chewning</em></p><blockquote><p>&#8220;It&#8217;s a good thing, if you&#8217;re ever looking for an acquisition, that your team is really small and you don&#8217;t have any debt&#8230; in my case, owned 100%, no debt, profitable company, super small team.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p><em>&#8212; Maxx Chewning</em></p><blockquote><p>&#8220;I built a candy brand for candy lovers, but it was built by a candy lover. And I think that&#8217;s this cheat code that a lot of people don&#8217;t have.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p><em>&#8212; Maxx Chewning</em></p><blockquote><p>&#8220;I know that we are at the extreme of pushing the team, but this retailer wants 600,000 bags in three months. It was never &#8216;I don&#8217;t know if I can do this.&#8217; It was always, &#8216;Say yes and figure out how you get there.&#8217;&#8221;</p></blockquote><p><em>&#8212; Maxx Chewning</em></p><h2>12: what still isn&#8217;t clear from the research</h2><ul><li><p>The size and terms of the performance incentives alongside the $75.5 million, and how much of the total amount Maxx has actually received.</p></li><li><p>What the employees received as a payout. He has confirmed publicly that he paid staff well from the proceeds.</p></li><li><p>Tax treatment on the final payout.</p></li><li><p>Whether competition for an offer would have raised the sale price. He never spoke to another buyer, so there is no way to know what Mars, Mondelez or Ferrero would have paid for Sour Strips.</p></li><li><p>Exact revenue by calendar year. The figures are as Maxx stated them, in company years, in a podcast.</p></li></ul><div><hr></div><p><strong>FOUNDED FACT</strong></p><h3>Hershey sold his first successful company too.</h3><p>Milton Hershey&#8217;s first candy business failed. So did his second. The one that finally worked was his third venture, the Lancaster Caramel Company, founded in 1886. The company performed well enough that the American Caramel Company agreed a price of $1 million in the spring of 1900 and completed the purchase on August 10, 1900, paying cash for the factory, machinery, recipes and the &#8220;Crystal A&#8221; trademark.</p><p>He sold because he was under the impression that caramel was a fad. He kept one thing out of the deal &#8212; a small chocolate subsidiary and its equipment &#8212; and bet the million dollars on it. In 1909 he and his wife founded a school for orphaned boys, and in 1918 he signed nearly his entire fortune over to it. The trust that runs that school still controls roughly 80% of the voting shares of The Hershey Company today. This means the $75.5 million paid to Maxx was signed off, ultimately, by a boarding school in Pennsylvania.</p><div><hr></div><p><strong>LEARN MORE</strong></p><p><em>Chew on This &#8212; Chewning on the two-month acquisition, the due diligence and telling the team.</em></p><div id="youtube2-6KkqR7gSZq0" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;6KkqR7gSZq0&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/6KkqR7gSZq0?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p><em>I Sold Sour Strips to Hershey&#8217;s (let me explain) &#8212; his own explanation, on his own channel.</em></p><div id="youtube2-Vb98s-ipPPQ" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;Vb98s-ipPPQ&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/Vb98s-ipPPQ?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><div><hr></div><p><strong>SOURCES</strong></p><p><em>1. The Hershey Company &#8212; &#8220;Hershey Expands Sweets Portfolio with Acquisition of Sour Strips&#8221;, press release, November 8, 2024</em></p><p>2. The Hershey Company &#8212; Form 10-K for fiscal 2024, filed February 18, 2025 (confirms the November 8, 2024 completion date and the sale of the brand by Actual Candy, LLC; no purchase price is disclosed)</p><p>3. Chew on This podcast &#8212; &#8220;How Maxx Chewning Sold Sour Strips to Hershey&#8217;s for $75.5M&#8221;, June 2025 (source of the $75.5 million figure)</p><p><em>4. The Hershey Company &#8212; &#8220;How Sour Strips Went from Startup to Standout: A Q&amp;A with Maxx Chewning&#8221;, May 26, 2026</em></p><p><em>5. Sour Strips official brand timeline, hersheyland.com</em></p><p><em>6. Shelf Life Story &#8212; &#8220;Maxx Chewning&#8217;s Multi-Million Dollar Candy Brand: Sour Strips&#8221;, December 6, 2023</em></p><p><em>7. Tubefilter &#8212; &#8220;Maxx Chewning has a smart strategy for his creator product&#8221;, November 12, 2024</em></p><p><em>8. Hershey Community Archives and LancasterHistory &#8212; Lancaster Caramel Company and Milton S. Hershey</em></p><p><em>9. Maxx Chewning, YouTube &#8212; &#8220;Saying goodbye to Sour Strips&#8230;&#8221;, June 2026</em></p><div id="youtube2-poBp9ZnR3uA" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;poBp9ZnR3uA&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/poBp9ZnR3uA?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p><em>Built entirely from public interviews, podcasts, press releases and SEC filings. No interview was conducted with the founder. All figures are as the founder or the acquirer stated them and have not been independently audited. Amounts are US dollars unless noted.</em></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.readfounded.com/subscribe?&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Subscribe now&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.readfounded.com/subscribe?"><span>Subscribe now</span></a></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.readfounded.com/p/a-10x10-office-50000-and-a-755-million?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Share&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.readfounded.com/p/a-10x10-office-50000-and-a-755-million?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_content=share&action=share"><span>Share</span></a></p><p class="button-wrapper" data-attrs="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https://www.readfounded.com/p/a-10x10-office-50000-and-a-755-million/comments&quot;,&quot;text&quot;:&quot;Leave a comment&quot;,&quot;action&quot;:null,&quot;class&quot;:null}" data-component-name="ButtonCreateButton"><a class="button primary" href="https://www.readfounded.com/p/a-10x10-office-50000-and-a-755-million/comments"><span>Leave a comment</span></a></p><p></p>]]></content:encoded></item><item><title><![CDATA[AppArmor: The $20 Million No.]]></title><description><![CDATA[How AppArmor revolutionized campus safety.]]></description><link>https://www.readfounded.com/p/eleven-years-zero-investors-40-million</link><guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.readfounded.com/p/eleven-years-zero-investors-40-million</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay Cox]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2026 02:00:11 GMT</pubDate><enclosure url="https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/f8ce58a2-3919-42ba-8353-a08cfe6463ff_1200x630.png" length="0" type="image/jpeg"/><content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TL;DR: Two Canadian brothers built an app that turns a smartphone into a campus security device. They spent 11 years building it, didn&#8217;t take on outside investment and ultimately sold to a competitor for $40M CAD in 2022.</p><p>Biggest lessons:</p><ul><li><p>It&#8217;s not about the sale price; it&#8217;s about the structure of the deal.</p></li><li><p>Know your audience &#8211; where you market your business should be where your target demographic spends their time.</p></li></ul><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!v5ka!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F5322f240-7d74-41d8-90a1-76a81e7f4d66_2017x1110.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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The first real conversation started in March 2020, with Rave Mobile Safety &#8212; a direct competitor backed by the growth investment firm TCV. Rave noted that AppArmor had repeatedly beaten them in the RFP process.</p><p>By that point the brothers were exhausted, having tackled almost a decade of building and growth by themselves. Under these circumstances, it&#8217;s easy to accept whatever offer is presented. The brothers, however, weren&#8217;t so easy to break. Rave offered $20 million Canadian to acquire 100% of AppArmor, which was rejected.</p><p>It wasn&#8217;t the sale price that annoyed them. It was the structure of the deal. The offer had an earnout component, meaning the brothers would have to keep working (possibly even harder than before) to hit sales targets. This didn&#8217;t interest them.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>&#8220;It had a lot of strings attached that we just weren&#8217;t comfortable with.&#8221;</p><p><em>&#8212; David Sinkinson</em></p></div><p>Twenty months later, the same buyer came back with $40 million, all cash, no strings. Here&#8217;s how they got there.</p><h2>02: how it started</h2><p>Chris Sinkinson grew up in Kingston, Ontario, a small city about halfway between Toronto and Montreal. He was the oldest of three boys; his brother David, 10 years younger than Chris, eventually helped build the business.</p><p>Chris studied computer science at Queen&#8217;s University in Kingston. In the late 1990s, IBM came to campus to recruit students with a crazy offer: if students accepted a job offer, they would cover the cost to move to the big city (Toronto), pay for living expenses with no expectations of completing a degree. Chris was intrigued but decided against it in favor of finishing his degree to secure a higher salary.</p><p>Little did he know this was at the peak of the dot-com bubble.</p><p>He graduated in 2002, almost two years after the crash &#8212; Nortel, then one of Canada&#8217;s biggest tech employers, laid off thousands of workers. As a new graduate, he was suddenly competing with workers who had 10+ years of experience for jobs in his field. Forced by the hand of fate, Chris wandered into the world of entrepreneurship instead.</p><p>What seemed fun at first got hard very quickly. A document management system, e-commerce tools: Chris wrote a lot of code and made very little money. The conclusion was that he was good at coding but not good at marketing his ideas to others.</p><p>In 2010, he went back to school for an MBA at his alma mater, Queen&#8217;s University, to learn more about the subject.</p><p>The timing of Chris&#8217; MBA meant he was on campus at the same time as his brother, David, who was finishing his undergraduate degree. Their lunches together consisted of Chris regurgitating lessons he had learned in class, while David, who now ran the school newspaper, put those ideas into action (or publication, more accurately).</p><p>Their first project together was a mobile app for newspapers.</p><p>Chris later reflected on this first real business idea: &#8220;It wasn&#8217;t a great market. It was definitely one of those markets that was headed in the wrong direction.&#8221;</p><p>In other words, it flopped.</p><h3>the campus security audit</h3><p>Around the same time, David was part of a campus safety committee that was in the process of auditing the blue-light emergency phones scattered around campus &#8212; the ones with a button that calls campus police. Two things stood out to David: first, roughly 30% of the phones were broken and second, they only helped if you stayed put until campus police arrived.</p><p>David&#8217;s idea was an almost perfect illustration of opportunity meeting luck. Not only were smartphones now becoming widely adopted (David sat on the campus safety committee just three years after the first iPhone was released), he also saw the smartphone as a way to have a safety device moving with students at all times.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>&#8220;I&#8217;m pretty sure I said, &#8216;There&#8217;s an app for that,&#8217; as part of my pitch. You have to remember this was back in 2011. The App Store was new&#8230; I actually had a BlackBerry.&#8221;</p><p><em>&#8212; David Sinkinson</em></p></div><p>Chris built it. The first version did exactly one thing: press a button in the app, and your phone&#8217;s location was sent to the campus security office, showing real-time location on a map.</p><p>After completing his undergrad, David, like Chris, also pursued an MBA and landed a job at a Canadian telecom company. He lasted eight months before deciding to join Chris.</p><p>Shortly after, the brothers packed their belongings and moved to Toronto, renting desks at a small incubator while building several small businesses. After a few weeks it became clear that one business (that would later become AppArmor) showed the most promise. The decision was made to sell the other small business ideas and go full steam ahead.</p><h3>the capital</h3><p>No seed round, no Series A or B. No funding was ever raised for AppArmor, and there were no investors, just the 50/50 equity split between David and Chris. Other small software projects on the side paid the bills and provided enough funds to launch AppArmor.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>&#8220;We never wanted to raise venture capital since we heard a lot of horror stories from other entrepreneurs. It&#8217;s hard raising funding; and once you do you have to spend a lot of time managing your investors who are just focused on short-term objectives so they can reap returns quickly.&#8221;</p><p><em>&#8212; Chris Sinkinson</em></p></div><h2>03: the $80/month customer</h2><p>It took David and Chris three years to build a sufficient revenue stream to dive in full time. Shortly before doing so, the brothers locked down an important first client: their alma mater, Queen&#8217;s University. The project that was dreamed up on its campus was also the first paying customer.</p><p>Queen&#8217;s branded the app Sequre &#8212; Q for Queen&#8217;s, of course &#8212; and offered it to students for free. The brothers charged $1,000 CAD up front and a recurring subscription-based charge of $80 CAD per month.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>&#8220;I can&#8217;t believe how little we charged&#8230; We were just so excited to have a client, and we saw tons of potential.&#8221;</p><p><em>&#8212; Chris Sinkinson</em></p></div><p>Once the brothers understood how much they had underpriced it, they asked Queen&#8217;s to keep the number private. They agreed, considering they had just scored a sweet deal.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q8k5!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3033f6f4-f332-4d77-bed7-4f49ffdc5ced_2154x1660.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q8k5!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3033f6f4-f332-4d77-bed7-4f49ffdc5ced_2154x1660.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!q8k5!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F3033f6f4-f332-4d77-bed7-4f49ffdc5ced_2154x1660.png 848w, 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Although the award was presented to Queen&#8217;s, the ceremony was attended by university representatives from every corner of Canada. As part of the ceremony, a video demonstration of the app was shown, leaving attendees curious as to who built it. This might have been the best marketing the brothers could ever have asked for.</p><p>The second advantage of working with Queen&#8217;s was access. Not only was the university campus close by, but the Queen&#8217;s faculty was delighted by the brothers and allowed them to sit in the security office to monitor how the software was being used on a regular basis.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>&#8220;I got to sit in the dispatch room at the institution, talk with the dispatchers, understand their issues, and how they wanted it built. It was invaluable. We should have paid them. Don&#8217;t tell my brother Dave that I said that.&#8221;</p><p><em>&#8212; Chris Sinkinson</em></p></div><p>Many higher education institutions quickly adopted it after the initial success at Queen&#8217;s.</p><h2>04: navigating modern marketing</h2><p>For the first few years the brothers marketed the way they assumed a modern software company was supposed to: blog posts and social media. It provided no traction, and it took them an embarrassingly long time to work out why.</p><p>The simple explanation was that buyers were campus emergency managers. These are not people who spend their afternoons reading startup blogs or scrolling Twitter for good memes. They attend conferences, check their Outlook, and they publish RFPs.</p><p>Upon learning this, they switched their strategy. Instead of posting on social media, they sent old-school emails. Instead of blog posts, they attended trade shows and purchased a booth. They also submitted formal bids for RFPs, the document a school or government body publishes when it wants to buy something and invites suppliers to bid. Although the techniques were old school, time and persistence proved valid.</p><p>Four years after the initial launch at Queen&#8217;s in 2011, their strategy was starting to pay off. By the end of 2015, the business crossed $1 million CAD ARR, which roughly doubled every two years until the company was sold in 2022.</p><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uBYj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe778df15-a8a8-4cb7-94b3-71641c3e5280_2070x823.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uBYj!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe778df15-a8a8-4cb7-94b3-71641c3e5280_2070x823.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uBYj!,w_848,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe778df15-a8a8-4cb7-94b3-71641c3e5280_2070x823.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uBYj!,w_1272,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe778df15-a8a8-4cb7-94b3-71641c3e5280_2070x823.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uBYj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe778df15-a8a8-4cb7-94b3-71641c3e5280_2070x823.png 1456w" sizes="100vw"><img src="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uBYj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe778df15-a8a8-4cb7-94b3-71641c3e5280_2070x823.png" width="1456" height="579" data-attrs="{&quot;src&quot;:&quot;https://substack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com/public/images/e778df15-a8a8-4cb7-94b3-71641c3e5280_2070x823.png&quot;,&quot;srcNoWatermark&quot;:null,&quot;fullscreen&quot;:null,&quot;imageSize&quot;:null,&quot;height&quot;:579,&quot;width&quot;:1456,&quot;resizeWidth&quot;:null,&quot;bytes&quot;:43116,&quot;alt&quot;:null,&quot;title&quot;:null,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image/png&quot;,&quot;href&quot;:null,&quot;belowTheFold&quot;:true,&quot;topImage&quot;:false,&quot;internalRedirect&quot;:&quot;https://foundedco.substack.com/i/210687091?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe778df15-a8a8-4cb7-94b3-71641c3e5280_2070x823.png&quot;,&quot;isProcessing&quot;:false,&quot;align&quot;:null,&quot;offset&quot;:false}" class="sizing-normal" alt="" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uBYj!,w_424,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe778df15-a8a8-4cb7-94b3-71641c3e5280_2070x823.png 424w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uBYj!,w_848,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe778df15-a8a8-4cb7-94b3-71641c3e5280_2070x823.png 848w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uBYj!,w_1272,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe778df15-a8a8-4cb7-94b3-71641c3e5280_2070x823.png 1272w, https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!uBYj!,w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fe778df15-a8a8-4cb7-94b3-71641c3e5280_2070x823.png 1456w" sizes="100vw" loading="lazy"></picture><div class="image-link-expand"><div class="pencraft pc-display-flex pc-gap-8 pc-reset"><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container restack-image"><svg aria-hidden="true" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 20 20" fill="none" stroke-width="1.5" stroke="var(--color-fg-primary)" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><g><path d="M2.53001 7.81595C3.49179 4.73911 6.43281 2.5 9.91173 2.5C13.1684 2.5 15.9537 4.46214 17.0852 7.23684L17.6179 8.67647M17.6179 8.67647L18.5002 4.26471M17.6179 8.67647L13.6473 6.91176M17.4995 12.1841C16.5378 15.2609 13.5967 17.5 10.1178 17.5C6.86118 17.5 4.07589 15.5379 2.94432 12.7632L2.41165 11.3235M2.41165 11.3235L1.5293 15.7353M2.41165 11.3235L6.38224 13.0882"></path></g></svg></button><button tabindex="0" type="button" class="pencraft pc-reset pencraft icon-container view-image"><svg xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="20" height="20" viewBox="0 0 24 24" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" stroke-width="2" stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption"><em>Recurring revenue per year, $million CAD. The figures for 2012, late 2015, and February 2022 have been publicly stated by the founders. Other years are estimates based on revenue roughly doubling every two years.</em></figcaption></figure></div><p>The second big leap forward was in January 2019. The brothers got an answer on an RFP for the Colorado Community College System and had scored not just one school but thirteen in one deal. This milestone also marked the first cross-border deal and opened the floodgates for other American universities.</p><h2>05: the tools</h2><h3>the product</h3><p>The primary product was the mobile safety app sold B2B. A user could press a button, and a live location appears on a map for campus security. 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stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" class="lucide lucide-maximize2 lucide-maximize-2"><polyline points="15 3 21 3 21 9"></polyline><polyline points="9 21 3 21 3 15"></polyline><line x1="21" x2="14" y1="3" y2="10"></line><line x1="3" x2="10" y1="21" y2="14"></line></svg></button></div></div></div></a><figcaption class="image-caption">A Queen&#8217;s University twitter post from September 2021 announcing the Covid-19 screening feature in with the SeQure app.</figcaption></figure></div><h3>founder skillsets</h3><p>David headed sales and marketing, something Chris had difficulty with, while Chris controlled the technical side of the business: software and product design, app development, and deployment for Queen&#8217;s and eventually every university thereafter.</p><h3>monetization</h3><p>Monetization was achieved through three primary channels and remained relatively unchanged since first launching at Queen&#8217;s. Eventually, just two channels were responsible for cashflow.</p><ol><li><p>Recurring subscriptions. This is arguably the best cashflow decision the brothers made. Institutions paid a monthly or annual fee based on their size. The average revenue stream was approximately $15,000 CAD per year.</p></li><li><p>The original monetization model included a one-time setup fee, which was later dropped. Several deals stalled because the universities could not fit the hefty fee into their annual budgets. The brothers decided to up the subscription pricing and remove the setup fee.</p></li><li><p>The third and newest monetization framework was add-ons. As features were built out and the capabilities of the app increased, extras could be tagged onto the basic subscription service if chosen. Just a few of these add-ons brought the annual subscription amount closer to $50,000 CAD per year.</p></li></ol><h3>unique branding</h3><p>As the app&#8217;s popularity allowed migration to the United States, the app was rebranded for each school. NYU students downloaded &#8220;Safe NYU&#8221;. Florida students downloaded &#8220;GatorSafe&#8221;. Any competent developer could build one campus safety app; almost nobody wanted to operate several hundred app store listings, each with its own institution, review cycle and configuration. This unique &#8216;rebranding&#8217; strategy for every institution wasn&#8217;t just thinking of the customer, it was creating barriers. The operational hassle meant that AppArmor was less likely to have successful competitors.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>&#8220;We weren&#8217;t one app, we were a bajillion apps.&#8221;</p><p><em>&#8212; David Sinkinson</em></p></div><h2>06: the timeline</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kjxj!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F576e16e5-45ef-4338-9044-f0e2527d3d23_2070x1005.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" srcset="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!Kjxj!,w_424,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F576e16e5-45ef-4338-9044-f0e2527d3d23_2070x1005.png 424w, 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Revenue kept climbing, especially with a new add-on that provided a vaccine verification system at the height of the COVID-19 pandemic as students returned to campus. That stretch produced the best quarter in the company&#8217;s history: approximately $1.5 million Canadian of new recurring revenue.</p><p>On November 18, 2021, Rave came back with a second offer: $40 million Canadian, all cash, no conditions. This was an offer the brothers couldn&#8217;t pass on.</p><div class="callout-block" data-callout="true"><p>&#8220;In entrepreneurship, you don&#8217;t always get an opportunity to &#8216;lock in&#8217; a win. This seemed like a great opportunity to do just that.&#8221;</p><p><em>&#8212; David Sinkinson</em></p></div><p>Because the brothers were sole owners with no equity distribution to investors, the $40 million payout was structured with &#8216;phantom equity&#8217;, so key employees received cash payouts based on the $40 million valuation.</p><h2>08: the sale process</h2><div class="captioned-image-container"><figure><a class="image-link image2 is-viewable-img" target="_blank" href="https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!JOvs!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F7f0c787b-45bc-4efe-80b5-9c0e501ecd47_2017x2250.png" data-component-name="Image2ToDOM"><div class="image2-inset"><picture><source type="image/webp" 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They come on the lot, they kick the tires, they make engine noises in the driver&#8217;s seat, and then they take it off the lot. Instead, it&#8217;s like the FBI searching your house. They&#8217;re just ripping everything out.&#8221;</p><p><em>&#8212; David Sinkinson, on due diligence</em></p></div><h2>09: what went wrong</h2><h4>01: They marketed where they were comfortable, not where buyers were</h4><p>Years of blog posts and social media aimed at an audience that was never going to purchase a subscription.</p><h4>02: Underpricing their first customer</h4><p>$80 CAD per month ($960 CAD per year) for software that eventually fetched upwards of $50,000 CAD per year per school. Although revenue-wise this wasn&#8217;t ideal, it&#8217;s the decision that ultimately bootstrapped the business.</p><h4>03: They copied another company&#8217;s culture and lost both employees</h4><p>Early on, the business attempted to adopt Netflix&#8217;s culture, because it had good reviews and other startups were piling on. It alienated their employees, which at the time stood at a grand total of two. Both left shortly afterward. In 2015, five core principles were established that became a core of the business: deliver quickly, deliver quality, thrive on freedom, leave your ego at the door, act in our best interest.</p><h4>04: Nothing prepared them for due diligence</h4><p>Eleven years of running the company, and the buyer&#8217;s inspection was the most involved part of it. Both describe it as the worst part of selling, and neither one saw it coming.</p><h4>05: The team found out at the very end</h4><p>A necessary consequence of the confidentiality agreement. Although employees found out on the day of the sale, they received salary increases, bonuses, and eventually, some even received RSUs when Rave was sold.</p><h2>10: what went right</h2><h4>01: They rejected the structure, not the number</h4><p>The single most valuable decision. Turning down $20 million because of how it was paid, rather than how much it was, is what produced $40 million with no strings twenty months later.</p><h4>02: A thriving business</h4><p>Saying no to the first offer was acceptable because the business was growing, profitable at a 60% margin, and under no pressure. Do not assume that passing on a lucrative exit and expecting a larger offer to come is reasonable. The reason it worked for AppArmor was because of brute market share, lack of competition, and strong growth in ARR.</p><h4>03: They kept building during the gap year</h4><p>The months between offers were not spent waiting for the phone to ring. They shipped a new product timed to campuses reopening and posted their best quarter ever. The second offer was a response to a demonstrably better company.</p><h4>04: Leveraging future plans</h4><p>Knowing Rave intended to sell shortly after their exit, the brothers negotiated a slice of that future sale before signing. Ten months later it paid out in spades.</p><h4>05: Ignoring the noise</h4><p>For a decade, Chris and David faced scrutiny and doubt from people claiming it was not a real business. This noise was shattered when the cash from the sale hit their bank accounts in early 2022.</p><h2>11: founded lessons</h2><p>In their words:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;Don&#8217;t pursue validation from your peers. Instead, pursue validation in the market. A couple of years into the business, that realization was a big change that helped me stay on track.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p><em>&#8212; David Sinkinson</em></p><blockquote><p>&#8220;If you&#8217;re running a profitable, systematized, and growing business, buyers will come to you. You don&#8217;t need to shop your company.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p><em>&#8212; Chris Sinkinson</em></p><blockquote><p>&#8220;We learned that you need to have face time with clients. It helps legitimize your product. Going to conferences and trade shows are a must.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p><em>&#8212; David Sinkinson</em></p><blockquote><p>&#8220;Bigger markets are harder to penetrate if you are a small business with low credibility.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p><em>&#8212; David Sinkinson</em></p><blockquote><p>&#8220;Always remember, your culture is a fundamental strategic advantage in the marketplace because it is difficult for rivals to replicate.&#8221;</p></blockquote><p><em>&#8212; Chris Sinkinson</em></p><h2>12: found(ed) out</h2><p>Co-founder David Sinkinson was kind enough to answer a few questions for Founded.</p><ul><li><p>How the $40 million was divided between the two brothers &#8594; <em>A 50/50 split ($20 million CAD each).</em></p></li><li><p>The size of the phantom equity slice in Rave, and what Rave&#8217;s own sale actually paid them &#8594; <em>It was small, less than a few hundred thousand each (less than 1% of the sale price). We locked in the win!</em></p></li><li><p>Tax treatment on the payouts &#8594; <em>primarily capital gains, we won taxpayer of the year that year.</em></p></li><li><p>Whether any other buyer was ever interested in purchasing AppArmor, or if Rave was the sole bidder &#8594; <em>names remain undisclosed but several were in the running, finally narrowing down to just two.</em></p></li><li><p>Exact customer numbers between 2012 and 2022 &#8594; <em>between 350-400 close to the sale date, with millions of users all security notification systems and apps.</em></p></li><li><p>What do interviewers and other write-ups usually get wrong about you or the journey? <em>&#8220;They tend to understate the revenue of the side hustles we had going at the beginning. Chris was a serial entrepreneur for years, so he had a few businesses doing a total of about 200K in revenue. This was hugely important - I had some kind of base salary at the start which allowed me to leave Bell and to get things off of the ground.&#8221;</em></p></li><li><p>What did the day-to-day actually look like in the months before selling became your new reality? &#8220;<em>It was challenging because we had to hide everything from the staff. So it was a lot of trying to move the business forward (in the business) and working on the sale simultaneously. This involved a ton of data pulling, scrubbing, etc. We didn&#8217;t have AI - we did it ourselves (and with professional support from counsel or accountants).&#8221;</em></p></li><li><p>On Queen&#8217;s as your first client &#8212; was it a long process that had you feeling nervous? I can imagine landing that size of a first client is a big deal. <em>&#8220;You know, I didn&#8217;t really think the safety app product was going to go anywhere! Can you imagine that?! So when we landed Queen&#8217;s, I thought it was a fun little thing to help people and a bit of pizza money. It also took them forever to launch, but after we did I started to realize &#8220;hey, maybe this could actually work&#8221; - particularly after it won the award.&#8221;</em></p></li></ul><div><hr></div><p><strong>FOUNDED FACT</strong></p><h3>There were already two AppArmors.</h3><p>When the brothers named the company in 2011, a well-known piece of software called AppArmor had been shipping inside the Linux operating system for about a year. It is a security tool that restricts what individual programs on a computer are allowed to do. It started in 1998 under the name Subdomain, was bought by Novell in May 2005 and renamed AppArmor and then scooped up by Canonical (the company behind Ubuntu) in 2009 and was accepted into the core Linux kernel in 2010 &#8212; one year before a campus safety company in Kingston, Ontario started using the same name.</p><p>For eleven years, a search for &#8220;AppArmor&#8221; returned both a piece of Linux security infrastructure used on servers worldwide and a campus security app for university students. Chris, a computer science graduate, would almost certainly have known. Neither party appears to have ever minded, and the name never came up as an issue in the sale.</p><p><em>Additional note from David: &#8220;</em>They sent us a nasty letter one time. We reached a mutual coexistence agreement where we put a note on our site telling folks about the other AppArmor. We had the Canadian trademark, they had the US one, so I think we called it even.&#8221;</p><div><hr></div><p><strong>LEARN MORE</strong></p><p><em>Built to Sell Radio, Episode 448 &#8212; David on the negotiating mistake that nearly cost them $20 million.</em></p><div id="youtube2-OQ1PCy-Wr-I" class="youtube-wrap" data-attrs="{&quot;videoId&quot;:&quot;OQ1PCy-Wr-I&quot;,&quot;startTime&quot;:null,&quot;endTime&quot;:null}" data-component-name="Youtube2ToDOM"><div class="youtube-inner"><iframe src="https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/OQ1PCy-Wr-I?rel=0&amp;autoplay=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;enablejsapi=0" frameborder="0" loading="lazy" gesture="media" allow="autoplay; fullscreen" allowautoplay="true" allowfullscreen="true" width="728" height="409"></iframe></div></div><p><em>Practical Founders, Episode 107 &#8212; Both brothers on bootstrapping to $40 million with no investors.<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@PracticalFounders">https://www.youtube.com/@PracticalFounders</a></em></p><div><hr></div><p><strong>SOURCES</strong></p><p><em>1. Sramana Mitra &#8212; &#8220;Canadian Brothers Bootstrapping to $40M Exit&#8221;, Parts 1&#8211;7, July&#8211;August 2024</em></p><p><em>2. They Got Acquired &#8212; &#8220;These brothers turned down a $20 million offer&#8230;&#8221;, March 17, 2025</em></p><p><em>3. CO&#8212; by U.S. Chamber of Commerce &#8212; &#8220;How 2 Brothers Debunked Startup Myths&#8221;, November 21, 2024</em></p><p><em>4. Practical Founders Podcast #107, August 23, 2024</em></p><p><em>5. Built to Sell Radio, Episode 448</em></p><p><em>6. Rave Mobile Safety acquisition press release, February 8, 2022</em></p><p><em>7. Motorola Solutions acquisition of Rave Mobile Safety, December 2022</em></p><p><em>8. Startup Different &#8212; the founders&#8217; book and podcast</em></p><p><em>9. AppArmor (Linux security module) project history.</em></p><p><em>Built entirely from public interviews, podcasts and press releases. All figures are as the founders or acquirers stated them and have not been independently audited. 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